Questions The Gang of 8 Won't Discuss

Do you want to know why there is so much anger, heartache and confusion centered around immigration reform, especially illegal immigration reform? Here are a several questions that may reveal why:

1. Would the Mexican undocumented (over 50% of the US undocumented) come or stay in the US if they could have equivalent US wages and services working at home with their families in Mexico?

2. Why do we pay US Border Patrol Agents to chase people around at night like animals when many of those same people are Mexican undocumented workers coming to harvest fruits and vegetables for our tables?

3. Are the bi-national governments (US/Mexico) more concerned with bi-national trade, Mexican oil, US investments in Mexico, remittances, drug profits, NAFTA, and cheap labor than they are the safety and welfare of their own bi-national citizens?

4. Why did the largest influx of Mexican undocumented occur after the passage of Clinton's NAFTA during the mid-1990's?

5. Why is the disparity in wealth and poverty in Mexico worse now than it has ever been?

6. Why does Washington seldom if ever discuss Mexican poverty as the major cause of Mexican undocumented coming to the US? 

7. Why does Harvard University award ex Mexican Drug War President Felipe Calderon their First Angelopoulos Global Leaders Fellowship when Calderon's 2006 drug war policies left over 100,000 people dead in Mexico?

8. Why are the above topics either not talked about, glossed over, or simply taboo during this Gang of 8's immigration reform hearings? 

Water Seeks Its Own Level and So Will Hungry People

In response:  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/23/steve-king-ronald-reagan_n_3329484.html?&ir=Latino%20Voices&utm_hp_ref=latino-voices

Like-minded Republic captains will go down with their immigration ship as they furiously blame those darn eleven million "illegals" for causing the USS USA to sink.

Water seeks its own level as will hungry people. Some republicans blame the gushing water rather than fixing the holes in their ship. Put another way some Republicans and their cronies should be blaming Mexican poverty as the cause of over 50% of our undocumented population, not the undocumented themselves.

You can't damn off the border from a flood of hungry people any more than you can damn off the border from a 2,000 mile long title wave.

By the way, we the people need to blame both governments and their insidious NAFTA for causing the Mexican poverty that causes illegal Mexican immigration to the US.

The bi-national elite also have it twisted around in order to avoid any hint of responsibility for the undocumented nightmare that they profit from creating and maintaining in the US.
Those elite are not the ones who have to be chased around at night like animals in order to run al Norte to feed their families. Nor are they the ones who suffer losses of job and horrendously long lines at US hospital emergency rooms.

Nope.

The Mexican elite sit back and collect billions in remittances and drug profits while the US elite collect billions from cheap labor, privatized prisons, their US border security industries, their drug war industry, their bank laundered drug profits, their guns flowing south, and from their immigration "reform" lobbyists who pay them dearly to retain their lucrative (and our failed) immigration status quo.

Our Representatives Need Reforming, Not Immigration

In response:  http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/house-immigration-talks-91849.html 

From the above article: "Under a tentative deal reached Thursday, immigrants who are in the United States illegally would need to buy their own insurance, and if they accept government subsidized care, they’re out of the country. Republicans agreed to exempt emergency care."
Please tell me who is going to suddenly swoop down and take them out of the country?
Also, "Republicans agreed to exempt emergency care". Sweet.
I would love to see any of these elite representatives of ours take their 98 year old parents to an emergency room in Sacramento, CA. I would love to see any of them stand in line and wait for 4 or more hours while 50 to 60 undocumented people and people with obvious mental problems have to wait too.

Many of them have to wait outside because there is not enough seating in the emergency room waiting room for them to be able to sit down.
I am afraid that these so-called representatives of ours are either clueless, great liars, or simply don't care.
They are what needs reforming, not immigration.

The Media's Propaganization of Immigration Reform

The way the media propagandizes immigration reform you would think there are no downsides to it.

They of course only tell one side of the story.

Why doesn't one new agency go talk to longtime residents of San Jacinto, CA, located 1.5 hours away from the Tijuana border? After NAFTA was ramrodded through in the mid-1990's, San Jac was flooded by primarily undocumented people from Mexico.

How do I know that they are undocumented? Let's just say it is an educated guess. I was a border patrol/INS/ICE agent for 26 years.

NAFTA coupled with the Great Mortgage Meltdown/Recession of 2008 (another preventable Government failure for the 1%'s profit ) turned San Jacinto into a border town that is unrecognizable from what it used to be.

I don't blame the undocumented. I blame two corporatist governments who screw not only the undocumented, but US taxpayers too.

I blame the media today who is hell bent on reform and telling the problems of the undocumented, but who throw the people of towns like San Jacinto under their immigration reform bus because they do not matter. And that is why Americans are so angry.

Tell me how our governments failed immigration policies (which this reform joke will turn out to be) helps long-time citizen taxpayers of San Jacinto, CA?

You can't, because it is to late. The only thing that would save them is for Mexico to start taking care of its own people, and we know there is no reason for them to do that.

Washington - Jerking Us Around About Illegal Immigration for Decades

In response:  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/22/immigration-reform-economy_n_3320549.html?utm_hp_ref=latino-voices&ir=Latino%20Voices

Washington - you have been jerking us around about illegal immigration for decades. You told us Reagan's Amnesty in the mid-1980's and Clinton's NAFTA in the mid-1990's (coupled with the billions in "border security" increases) would solve the problem. The number of undocumented jumped from the some 3 million then to the estimated 11 million that it is today.

You guys tell us that Mexico is our friendly neighbor, yet the fencing at the ports of entry look like we are at war with Mexico. You guys share 1.25 billion dollars a day in cross border trade with Mexico yet why do their poor keep coming? You guys never discuss the corrupt Mexican government's responsibility in maintaining the conditions that push their poor here when you pass immigration reform. I wonder why?

You pay border patrol agents to chase people around at night when many of those being chased are the same people who harvest our fruits and vegetables?

You stand by and let this travesty of migrants' rights continue when over 50% of our undocumented (Mexicans) would not come or stay here if they were to allowed to receive similar US wages and services in Mexico?   Could it be that you also profit from their undocumented labor and Latino politics? 

Your NAFTA shipped US jobs away and ruined small corn farmers and small business in Mexico. You support Calderon's 2006 drug war in Mexico which left some 100,000 people dead (including several US agents). Anyone with half a brain knows that Calderon's drug war was and still is a cartel take over of the competition. Then Harvard University grants this tyrant the First Angelopoulos Global Leader's Fellowship with a year of lucrative speaking engagements?

Both governments conspire to rape the good people on both sides of the fence. You guys stand back and let Mexico "export" its poor north so you can profit off of cheap labor while US taxpayers suffer the costs and consequences?

Immigration Reform: Abusing Foreigners For Labor and US Taxpayers For Money

Ultimately "immigration reform" is all about the 1% insidiously turning a profit by abusing foreigners for labor and US taxpayers for jobs and money.

Our wonderful leaders attempt to create a RPI class of indentured slaves while soaking US taxpayers for billions more to "secure the border". 

Washington, Mexico and US Immigration Reform

In response:  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/21/senate-immigration-bill_n_3315271.html

As Washington scrambles to reform immigration the issue that concerns Americans most is the part about 11 or so million undocumented people "hiding in the shadows".

Current PEW research studies indicate that roughly 50% of those 11 million undocumented people are from Mexico. One would think that our Senators would address the fact that about one half of our current undocumented population, approximately some 5.5 million people, are from Mexico.

Yet Washington remains eerily silent about this fact and anything that Washington shuts up about should be of concern to us all.

Will Washington admit that the largest influx of undocumented to the US (including Mexicans) came after the passage of Clinton's NAFTA in 1994? Why would a free trade agreement that must be benefitting someone actually cause the largest influx ever of undocumented people to come to the US (from some 3 million in the mid 1990's to the 11 million or so today)?

You know I don't hear them say much about these facts either:  NAFTA ruined small corn farmers in Mexico and many small Mexican businesses were lost to no other than US Wal-Mart.

So why should we trust Washington's immigration reform today after they created NAFTA which actually nearly quadrupled our population of undocumented?

Today the US and Mexico share 1.25 billion dollars a day in cross border trade which clearly does not benefit the Mexican poor who still try to come here.